Episode Transcript
[00:00:02] Welcome to the Crema Chaj podcast.
[00:00:08] Hey, good afternoon. Good afternoon.
[00:00:13] Would you like to take a seat?
[00:00:18] We're going to take a little break this morning in our series that we've been doing on Sunday, sowing and reaping.
[00:00:27] If you've been here the last few weeks, we've just started to do that. You might see the. Obviously, there's a different picture on the screen. I was due to bring a message. It was a prophetic sense of something I felt the Lord was saying in a reading of Scripture. And it was going to be sort of coming towards the end of our series that we were doing last year on the ways of the Lord. And I, just as I was preparing it, I tripped over and broke my wrist. And so I wasn't able to deliver it during that series.
[00:00:55] And then we went into Christmas as I recovered. And so. But you know what? It's kind of a word that sits in between the two. And so we're going back, going forward, and I want to bring that word to you this morning.
[00:01:08] But what? Just that season of recovery and, you know, nursing my broken wrist, declaring my healing, gave me a little bit more time just to really press into what I felt like the Lord was saying. And actually, as we went into 2026, I felt certain that there was this sense of.
[00:01:24] Of a word from the Lord as he was speaking to me through this season. Firstly, that 2025 was a year of breaking point into breakthrough, and that 2026 and 2027 are the years of promise and fulfillment. However that happens, it could be happening over and over again. But there's something corporate and there's something individual for us to grasp in that. And, you know, obviously I broke my wrist and the Lord was speaking to me about breaking point and breakthrough when I was not nursing my wrist. And you might think, oh, gosh, you know, what are you saying, Juliet? Well, the thing is, sometimes things happen to us in life that are difficult, struggles, challenges. And God is so good and he's so kind. He speaks to us in the midst of us and brings a good word, brings an encouraging word. And very often prophetically, he doesn't just give us words that prophesy over people. He also speaks, speaks through our lives to demonstrate his goodness. And as I was in this season, the Lord said, see the signs. You're in that time again.
[00:02:32] And I remembered that every single time, Steve and I, through our history of doing ministry, have entered an epic moment of breakthrough. Just before that, I've either had a little accident or I've broken a bone.
[00:02:45] Now some of you are like, oh, no, we need to give Juliet a sozo or break. The power of the curse keeps repeating. No, the curse has already been broken over me. The blood of Jesus has covered me. But here's the thing I've seen in these seasons. You see, when we're in seasons of pressing into breakthrough, on the edge of promise, it's a strenuous season. There's often lots happening. There's lots going up and coming down. And we're partnering with the Lord in what he's doing. And in this season, a revival in our land.
[00:03:20] And as we're pressing into that, sometimes our human frail bodies, we're not Superman or Superwoman, do something silly or trip over and fall over because we're tired or because we're not paying attention. It's happened three times to me, honestly, specific moments of breakthrough when I'm just not paying attention, I'm just tired, or I'm doing something silly. And the Lord said, see the signs now. I need to learn to before I trip over that. We're in a season of breakthrough, and I just need to be a bit more careful, not go up big steep hills that Steve has told me not to climb and come down and break my wrist.
[00:03:58] But the Lord in his goodness spoke in that season about breakthrough is coming.
[00:04:03] We know in our land we are in a season of revival.
[00:04:08] The writers, the news writers are saying, quiet revival. We think it's a bit noisier than quiet, but it's beginning.
[00:04:15] We're on the precipice of breakthrough. Last year, Chris Valatin, the prophet, came and he prophesied over our leaders gathering and a little bit in church on a Sunday, he said this England is in the womb of the dawn, the birthing of a new era.
[00:04:29] And we received it. We were like, yes, amen. We know it. We know we're in it. But imagine that picture if any of you, some of us have given birth and we know we have to get to 10cm dilated, 9 actually, before you can push that. Actually, there is a journey of pressing in and pressing in before it. It even starts. And then you have to push that baby out. Well, if that prophecy was England is at the womb of the dawn, I believe that year was about getting to 9cm dilated. And now it's time to push.
[00:05:00] And that is a place of vulnerability. It's a place where you can feel like you want to give up. It's a place that can be quite bloody, actually.
[00:05:09] But that baby's Coming out, whether we like it or not. This is where we are friends. And this is what I want to talk about this morning. And it's partly what the Lord is speaking to me about in this passage.
[00:05:21] What I want to talk about this morning is pressing in, pushing forward, pushing through in this kind of final push, by receiving the blueprints that God wants to pour out from heaven so that we can co labor with Jesus to see that thing, that revival in our own lives and in our church and in our city come into the full fulfillment of the promise over us. So grab your Bibles. We're going to be reading from Exodus 24. Will you stand as we read the word of the Lord? This is Exodus 24. We're going to read from.
[00:05:58] Verse 9 says this. Then Moses and Aaron and Adar and Abihu and 70 of the elders of Israel went up and they saw the God of Israel.
[00:06:10] And there was unto his feet, as it were, a pavement of sapphire stone, like the very heaven for clearness. And he did not lay a hand on the chief of the men of the of Israel. They beheld God and they ate and drank.
[00:06:24] The Lord said to Moses, come up to me on the mountain and wait there, that I may give you the tablets of stone with the law and the commandments which I have written for their instruction.
[00:06:33] So Moses rose with his assistant Joshua, and Moses went up into the mountain of God. And he said to the elders, wait here for us until we return to you. And behold, Aaron and Hur are with you. Whoever has a dispute, let him go to them.
[00:06:47] Then Moses went up on the mountain, and the cloud covered the mountain. And the glory of the Lord dwelt on the Mount Sinai. And the cloud covered it six days. And on the seventh day he called to Moses out of the midst of the cloud. Do you see the significance of this passage?
[00:07:03] That it was six days at creation, and seventh day he rested. This is a redemptive story.
[00:07:10] This is a kingdom picture of the redemption of our God.
[00:07:14] Now the appearance of the glory of the Lord was like a devouring fire on the top of the mountain. In the sight of the people of Israel, Moses entered the cloud and went up on the mountain. And Moses was on the mountain 40 days and 40 nights. Just like Jesus the Lord said to Moses, speak to the people of Israel, that they take for me a contribution from every man whose heart moves him. You shall receive the contribution for me, and this is the contribution that you shall receive from them. Gold, silver and bronze, blue and purple and scarlet, yarns and fine twined linen, goats hair, tanned ram skins, goat skins, acacia wood oil for the lamp, spices for the anointing oil and for the fragrant incense. Onc stones and stones for the setting of the ephod and for the breastpiece. And let them make me a sanctuary that I may dwell in their midst. Exactly. As I show you concerning the pattern of the tabernacle and of all its places, furniture, so shall you make it. This is the word of the Lord. Will you take a seat?
[00:08:18] This is a very, very beautiful passage and a pinnacle moment in the story of the journey of Israel.
[00:08:25] And, you know, I'm not sure that I can convey fully in one short talk all that I felt the Lord show me in this passage prophetically and for this now stage that we're at.
[00:08:39] I can't give you a precise, precise, prophetic words that you can drill down or even exact points, but I am going to try, and I want you to receive them into your story and the narrative that you're in right now. Because the bottom line, the thing that I felt like the Lord said in this passage was that in this season, he wanted to download blueprint after blueprint after blueprint of heaven coming to earth in our individual lives and corporately, that we would partner with him and see the full religion of his promise, and that it would cost us, that it would be costly, but worth it.
[00:09:23] This is such a beautiful moment in the history of Israel. There's so much that's gone before, you know, the great Exodus event and the covenant and the law and the stone tablets, all the beauty of this passage rising to this pinnacle moment.
[00:09:41] And then it kind of goes downhill after this, before they actually build the tabernacle because we get the golden calf.
[00:09:48] And when they build the tabernacle, then there's this really sad story about Aaron's sons, Nadab and Abihu, who actually die in the Tabernacle because they disobey God. It kind of goes up and down before they. Finally, after traveling around the wilderness for 40 years, a new generation of Israelites go into the full release of the promise, into the promised land. And that was Joshua. We know the story, but I believe that the key to the full release of the promise over Israel started here.
[00:10:24] Because, of course, Moses goes up the mountain and the elders are at the bottom, and Joshua goes partially up the way with him. See, Joshua would have seen Moses coming down from the mountain. He would have heard the story first. I'm sure. He would have seen the glory. He would have seen the sapphire beneath his feet, a vision of heaven.
[00:10:45] And then he saw the tabernacle and participated in the building of the tabernacle. And then he guarded the tent. He guarded at the entrance of the meeting. He knew what it looked like. Heaven on earth. He'd seen something of the picture of the recreation of Eden, the beginning of the beginning of the redemption of our God, that we would find the full promise released in us through Jesus Christ. He was seeing something of the picture of the redemption of our God, heaven coming to earth.
[00:11:14] And then when he went in to that promised land, he was the only one, along with Caleb, who couldn't see the giants. We know the story. Why couldn't he see the giants? It wasn't just about his courage and his boldness. I believe that he carried a vision of heaven that he did not let go of.
[00:11:33] And because of that vision of heaven, he saw the full release of the promise. Now, of course, Moses did have the full vision, but he didn't get to see the full release of the promise because he had to contend with the people who didn't believe.
[00:11:51] But the next generation did. You know we're a revival generation, right?
[00:11:56] You know that this season in our history is a revival season, and we are a revival generation. Will we receive a vision of heaven and receive the full promise into the promised land? You see, we're all at different stages of receiving promises from God. God has spoken to us corporately. God has spoken to us individually about things. Some of us, we haven't seen it yet. Some of us, we've seen some of it. Some of us, we've seen a lot. But, you know, there's always more of heaven wherever we are in promise and fulfillment. This story, if we will build a tabernacle for God in the wilderness for the glory of God, then the glory of God will take us in to the promise.
[00:12:50] You see, there's something of this picture that fits us right now as a church because we've seen some of what the Lord has said, but not all of it. And I want to say to you this morning, Cromer Church, if we will build a house of his glory, a tabernacle even while we're in the wilderness, and we haven't seen all of the promise released yet. The glory of the Lord will take us in to the full promise.
[00:13:17] And it's for you, too. It's for us as a house. It's for us as a nation.
[00:13:22] It's a picture of revival.
[00:13:25] And I want to talk about three things. Try to anyway, that I feel like The Lord really highlighted in this passage that we're to grasp this so many things, but three things that I felt were really significant for us at this time and in this season of revival across our land. And the first is this, that underneath his feet there is pure sapphire.
[00:13:49] And I just read that over and over again and I just couldn't get out of it. Sometimes that's the way the Lord speaks to us in Scripture. I just couldn't get out of this picture of the pure sapphire beneath his feet. And I just was crying and it was like just such a beautiful picture of the glory of the Lord.
[00:14:07] Pure sapphire, like a sea.
[00:14:09] You know, if I get. I have actually got a little sapphire on my ring. It's this beautiful, very thankful sapphire. And it's lovely and I was so grateful for it. You know, at Christmas, Steve bought me some pearl earrings, and they were bigger than I was expecting. They were so beautiful. They were so lovely. I was so, so thankful.
[00:14:32] You know, some of us are getting engagement rings and I'm sure they're getting bigger. There's some pretty big rocks out there, you know, but for all the beautiful jewelry that we've got between us, it is nothing compared to the sapphire beneath his feet.
[00:14:49] To see this image of heaven and bring heaven to earth.
[00:14:54] You know, as Christians, sometimes we. We're shopping in Primark, not that I've got anything against Primark. We're shopping in Primark and in heaven we have a wardrobe full of royal robes at our disposal.
[00:15:10] But all we can see is the here and now. And this is the challenge, you see, because underneath his feet there is pure, beautiful sapphire. Do you remember the picture in Revelation 4 of the throne room with the sea of glass? John's vision. I was trying to put these two pictures together, you know, that calm, still sea of glass. But none of the clever people put the pictures together. They say there's something separate, but I'm like, how can they be separate? They're the same picture. But maybe it is, as you look up, it's like two dimensional. One is blue underneath, and when you look across, it's crystal. John's vision. Or maybe it is that John's vision is actually the same picture because it was a crystal sea, which is blue, whatever, underneath his feet. It's very wealthy.
[00:16:01] You know, one of the things the Lord has said to us as a church, that we've got to get our thinking right about money.
[00:16:06] We need to look to the blueprint of heaven as we're thinking about what we're building for him on earth so that we build according to the pattern of heaven instead of build according to the challenges of this earth.
[00:16:19] You know, I was asking the Lord, what, what are you saying? What do you want, what do you want to say through this passage? And I'd come into church and this image of the sapphire beneath his feet, and then I'd look at our carpet, and our carpet's so dirty and ugly.
[00:16:39] You know, the lights are not up. It's a bit dimmed, you can't see it. But if we put the lights on as they are midweek and we all kind of look at the carpet, it's so horrible.
[00:16:48] And this is the place where his glory dwells. Now, I know you and I are temples of the Holy Spirit and he is within us, but, you know, this passage tells us he cares about where his manifest presence, His Shekinah glory rests, that it is beautiful and glorious. You see, the Lord doesn't do anything ugly.
[00:17:11] Over and over again in these passages, talking about the tabernacle, it talks about beauty and glory. He only creates what is good.
[00:17:20] And here we are without ugly carpet. And it just really started to annoy me.
[00:17:25] And you know the story that we have this challenge with our landlord, Lord, and we can't. We haven't yet secured the lease. We might almost be there, but there's a whole lot that's not fair. He's being mean and all the rest of it.
[00:17:37] And you know, we're on a journey for a new building, a new tabernacle. You know that we're in the not yet. We're like, what are you going to do, Lord? What are you saying, Lord? And we're pressing in and so we can't replace this carpet. Doesn't matter how much you clean it, it never looks clean.
[00:17:52] We put this carpet down for the 10 year lease. Now it needs to be renewed and we need to change this carpet. We have the money to do that. It would cost £50,000. But we have that money in our building fund. We could do it. And I'm like, we just need to replace the carpet, no matter what's going on. Steve, he's a good steward of the Lord's money. And he's saying we can't do that until we know that we're here.
[00:18:14] And so I'm like, lord, Lord, but underneath your feet it's sapphire. And I'm like, lord, how do we bring heaven to earth? How do we take that picture and bring it to earth? And I just felt this sort of unction. I was like, we're going to set up a tabernacle fund.
[00:18:29] You know, we already have a building fund, but we're going to set up a tabernacle fund, and we're going to start to take up offerings for the renovation of this building, even though we don't know we've got it.
[00:18:41] Because, you see, if we build a tabernacle for the glory of the Lord, then the glory of the Lord will take us in. So even if we aren't in this building, we're in another building. We're going to take the money for the carpet with us.
[00:18:54] We're going to build heaven to earth instead of look at the restriction we're in.
[00:19:01] Because I believe that the Lord is calling us to build according to the pattern of heaven, no matter what's going on here.
[00:19:09] And so there is a giving fund opening today.
[00:19:13] And you can give for one carpet tile, £6.
[00:19:20] You can give for a square foot of carpet towers, £24.
[00:19:27] We need a thousand square feet, and we need 900 carpet tiles. Ridiculous, right? This is ridiculous. But I believe that the Lord is looking to will we bring the offering that is us committed to building the tabernacle in the wilderness according to the pattern of heaven? This is about the heart and what we're willing to take faith steps in, because under his feet there is pure sapphire. And what does it mean for you, for your stories, for the things that God has promised? When you look at what you haven't seen yet, what does it mean for you to look to heaven and build that way around, rather than look at your restrictions and the challenges you face and allow that to limit what you build for the glory of God? What does it mean for all of us, corporate and individual?
[00:20:18] The second thing I want to say is not really. Doesn't sound that positive. I'm sorry. You know, when you give a prophetic word, you always want it to be up. We will get there. I promise. We'll get to the up thing. But just there's something about the upping and down of the story and what happens next.
[00:20:38] You know, I read all of this beautiful, glorious passage, and then we go into the passage and the bit, you know, all the instructions for the tabernacle, and then we go into the thing of building a golden calf.
[00:20:50] And I'm like, what?
[00:20:52] You know, in this passage, it says that Moses went into the glory of the Lord and all the elders were at the bottom and they could see the fire, and they could. They were in the presence of the Lord. They could never be that Close. It says he didn't lay an arm on them and they were allowed to eat at the foot of the mountain and be near to the glory of God.
[00:21:10] They were on the edge of the promise. Do you understand? And then they blew it.
[00:21:16] The most vulnerable moment.
[00:21:18] They were on the precipice of breakthrough and they blew it.
[00:21:22] Why did they build the golden calf? I know it says in the text that they were waiting and they got bored with waiting. I'm like, that's surely, Lord. I know that is. But, Lord, what happened? And the Lord said to me, it was just easier, you know, sometimes it is easier to build a golden calf, a tacky old golden calf, than to receive a blueprint from heaven and not deviate from it and do everything that God has told us to do.
[00:21:52] You know, we're in a journey as a church where God has spoken to us about some things. He's spoken to us about his presence. He's spoken to us about his salvation and healing, and we're seeing all of those things, things.
[00:22:04] And now he's talking to us about getting our thinking right on money. That could be the part where it gets too hard.
[00:22:11] We're growing, we're seeing salvation, the building's getting full. We've got to go on a journey, perhaps to another premises we don't know. But this is the bit, you understand, where we're on the edge and the precipice of breakthrough. We're in it, in our land.
[00:22:28] Will we wait for the full release of the promise and not give up on all that he has said?
[00:22:34] Or will we give in and build a tacky old golden calf?
[00:22:38] And again, I say this for you. What has God said to you? Are you waiting and pressing in for the full release of his promise? Don't give up, stand in the promise of God. Anything less than that is just rubbish.
[00:22:55] But this is the vulnerable moment, friends. It's the moment where we could feel like, I just can't do it, and remember the birthing picture, remember the birthing picture, that it's that we're on the precipice of breakthrough. Perhaps 9cm dilated, getting ready to push that baby out. Well, I can tell you as a woman who has had a baby, that that is the bit where you really feel like you don't want to do it, but you can.
[00:23:20] I mean, it doesn't matter, really, because it's going to come out anyway. It's just that it really is horrible at that moment of breakthrough. And I remember at 24 years old, I'm sorry if this is disturbing to some of you who haven't had children or whatever.
[00:23:32] Sorry. Not sorry.
[00:23:35] At 24, none of my friends had babies. I didn't know what was happening to me. And I can remember the moment. It's like your whole body has a complete meltdown. I'm shaking all over my body because the head was crowning, and I didn't know what was happening, and I just was like, ugh. Ugh. And then I started screaming at the top of my voice for everyone to hear. No one does that now because you all have very good birthing lessons that tell you to stay calm and take deep breaths. We didn't have all that then. I wasn't taking any deep breaths. I was holding my breath. And then I was screaming at the top of my voice. And the nurse just said to me, the midwife, she said, juliet, be quiet.
[00:24:10] Be quiet. We want this baby to come out of your bottom, not out of your mouth.
[00:24:15] Wrong push.
[00:24:17] Wrong push. Coming out the wrong way. No, no, it needs to come out the other way.
[00:24:21] This is the moment we're in, friends.
[00:24:24] This is the moment we're in. And whatever that means for you in the full release of the promise and what it means for us as a church and what it means for us for revival in this nation, we need to not lose it now.
[00:24:38] We got to push through.
[00:24:40] But here's what I know from this scripture. Even if we slightly mess it up on the journey, this baby's coming because God has said, revival is here.
[00:24:51] England is in the womb of the dawn, the birthing of a new era.
[00:25:04] The last thing I want to say to you is that as we participate in receiving a blueprint from heaven and through our labor, through our giving, through our laying down our lives to whatever God has said to us individually and then corporately as we do that, we literally weave the threads of heaven, weave the threads of redemption into the now world that we live in.
[00:25:37] He says to them, you are to receive this offering according to the pattern of heaven.
[00:25:43] And he says to them about all these obscure things that they have to give, you know, on stones and gold and thread. It was the thread that really caught my attention. I'll come there in a minute.
[00:25:56] All these things that we have to give. And I don't know, again, you know, the Lord has said to us, we have to get our thinking right about money.
[00:26:05] And as I look at this passage, I'm like, this is a totally different way of giving, and I haven't seen that before. You know, I Often do the offering here. And I always talk to people about, you know, the tithe that belongs to the Lord, the 10% already belongs to the Lord. Bring your tithe and your offerings are on top. And God loves a cheerful giver. Give what we've decided in our heart and all of that. But a lot of that is about us.
[00:26:29] You know, this passage, it is in the word of God. It's not wrong to teach it, but this passage is about seeing a blueprint of heaven and giving exactly what he said, because it's what he's saying he's doing. It's very different.
[00:26:43] It's about having a vision and then giving to that according to the will of God. It's quite a different way of thinking, isn't it? And, you know, Steve and I have been challenged by, what is it, Lord, as you say, we've got to change our thinking about money that you're saying. And you remember last year that we took up, we gave out, we sowed, we gave to other people's offerings. There were four churches that we gave to, and we said we were going to sow into them. And that was because the Lord spoke to Steve via our precious, precious beloved pastor Ricardo and Patricia in Colombia.
[00:27:21] He said, as Steve was talking to him about this getting our thinking right on money, he said, steve, you need to believe God for a miracle, and you need to sow according to the word of God. And he took him to Genesis 26, where Isaac sowed in famine and received back a hundredfold. And he said, whatever you need, you can actually believe God according to the word. So you sow for what you need. And so he came back and he said, well, to start with, we need 4 million. It's ridiculous, isn't it? We actually probably need 10. It's crazy. But he said, okay, well, we're so. And he sowed.
[00:27:54] We sowed as a church, £40,000. We did £10,000 each week to something that's nothing about us.
[00:28:02] That's actually revival stuff that's happening elsewhere. Some of it we don't have relationship with. But God spoke. It's not.
[00:28:10] It's according to the pattern of heaven. It's according to the will of God.
[00:28:15] And so we gave the first week and everyone was like, yay.
[00:28:18] We gave the second week and everyone was like, yay.
[00:28:22] We gave the third week and they were like, fourth week, pretty silent. Why?
[00:28:32] And we need it for our building. And it's our giving, and it's getting our thinking right. It's changing our thinking Accord, according to the will of heaven coming to earth. And it's challenging.
[00:28:45] You know, one of the beautiful things, though, in this passage is this theme of the blue.
[00:28:55] There are these blue threads that they're called to bring to the offering. It's kind of bizarre. The purple and scarlet and blue threads and all of the other beautiful stuff that's all part of the tabernacle. And you can read, and it's just phenomenally beautiful and symbolic.
[00:29:12] But these threads just caught my attention. You know, people had to make these threads and bring them into the offering according to the pattern of heaven, their labor they're giving.
[00:29:22] And those blue, purple and scarlet threads are in the tabernacle. You can see them.
[00:29:31] And they're at each juncture of coming into the Lord's presence. First, the veil, the blue thread, the veil between the holy place and the holy of holies.
[00:29:43] And then on the outside, the curtain around the edge, and then at the very screen at the entrance of the outer court. At every place, this blue thread. And what is it beneath his feet?
[00:29:58] Sapphire.
[00:30:00] So symbolic of heaven coming to earth and them entering into the realm of heaven. And they got to partner with bringing heaven to earth. And you know, the ephod that the priest would wear, which was like a tunic or was completely blue, that symbol of the priest bringing heaven to earth. It was always God's plan. And we see all of this, don't we, through the eyes of the glory of the new Covenant, through the coming of Jesus, the one who came to dwell with us to tabernacle with his people.
[00:30:36] We see all of this through the glory of the new Covenant, that by the blood of Christ, you and I are now temples of the Holy Spirit, Spirit.
[00:30:44] And we have access to heaven according to 2 Corinthians 3 that not even Moses had, that it's actually our full inheritance to have this vision of heaven and bring heaven to earth. But so often in the new Covenant, the way we see this is sometimes to dismiss the old.
[00:31:05] The law is obsolete, but only because Jesus is the fulfillment of the law.
[00:31:10] And you and I stand in the full promise of all that it means. And it is still our job to bring heaven to earth, even more so, because we are a royal priesthood, we wear that blue ephod.
[00:31:23] And so often we think that this is about our holy lives, that we shine like beacons of light our families. We think it's about our friends getting saved. We think it's about signs and wonders, deliverance and healing. And it is all of those wonderful, beautiful things. It is but, friends, it is also about what we build.
[00:31:44] It is also about the physical building of heaven to earth, whatever that means for us individually and what it means for us corporately as the people of God.
[00:31:57] And, you know, in this season, I believe that our young people are prophesying, this breakthrough is coming. Heaven is coming to earth.
[00:32:07] It started with Jesus, of course. It started in the pictures of the old covenant, And you and I are part of weaving those threads in heaven to Earth. And our young people are prophesying it with their flags.
[00:32:27] You know, when I was young, only older people had flags.
[00:32:32] It wasn't cool to have flags. I'm sorry if I'm being dismissive of anybody. I don't mean to be. It was just. I'm just telling you that actually, when I was young, we all thought it was weird that older people had flags and they danced with them in church. That seemed like a strange thing to do. But now it's all the young, cool people, and they've got their flags and they're everywhere. And we don't see them so much on a Sunday morning because sometimes it's a bit dangerous. But we do in the evening, and we do at our revival prayer. And I'll tell you, there's all the colors of heaven, and every time I look at it, I'm like, heaven coming to earth. Heaven coming to earth.
[00:33:08] And there's two girls who started waving their flags, Chloe and Mia dancing with their flags. And I was looking at it, I was like, it just reminds me of something.
[00:33:20] And there was a beautiful night in the presence of the Lord as these young women, heaven to earth in their creativity and their dance.
[00:33:32] And, you know, sometimes we see Daniel, Daniel, the worship leader, and he has a flag over his head.
[00:33:40] Sometimes it's red, but very often it's blue.
[00:33:44] He doesn't know what he's doing. He doesn't know what he's prophesying.
[00:33:50] I mean, he knows what he's doing, but he doesn't know he's prophesying. I mean, it's beautiful, but every time I feel the presence of God.
[00:34:01] Friends, body of Christ, Cromer Church, this is our moment. And we need to push and push and push and believe God for more than is our present reality, to look to heaven and bring heaven to earth, whatever that means to you and what it means for us corporately.
[00:34:20] And the people said, amen. Will you stand?
[00:34:24] Will you stand?
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[00:34:51] If you are here this morning.
